{"id":15545913,"date":"2024-07-30T10:18:35","date_gmt":"2024-07-30T14:18:35","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/golf.com\/?post_type=article&p=15545913"},"modified":"2024-07-30T10:18:42","modified_gmt":"2024-07-30T14:18:42","slug":"rules-guy-take-advice-caddie-also-your-playing-partner","status":"publish","type":"article","link":"https:\/\/golf.com\/instruction\/rules\/rules-guy-take-advice-caddie-also-your-playing-partner\/","title":{"rendered":"Rules Guy: Can you take advice from a caddie who’s also your playing partner?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

The\u00a0Rules of Golf\u00a0are tricky! Thankfully, we\u2019ve got the guru. Our\u00a0Rules Guy\u00a0knows the book front to back<\/a>. Got a question? He\u2019s got all the answers.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

I\u2019m a caddie at a resort and sometimes get asked to play with a client. When playing, how many penalty strokes must I take each time I give advice to a client who asks for it? Does the client get a penalty too? \u2014Steve \u201cCadillac\u201d Heslin, Las Vegas<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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This all sounds very sketch, even for Vegas, where \u201cclients\u201d often ask for untoward things. Now, just as a Cadillac can pull double duty as one\u2019s personal ride and as an Uber, but not at the same time, so too golf. You\u2019re either a caddie or a player. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ergo, your fellow golfer gets two strokes each time for asking for advice, per Rule 10.2a… and you get two strokes for giving advice under the same rule. Call it a new spin on the old caddie maxim: \u201cShow up, keep up and shut up.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

For more caddie-related advice from our guru, read on …<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n

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Rules Guy: Can a caddie help you repair marks on the green?<\/a><\/blockquote>\n By:<\/span>\n \n \n Rules Guy <\/a>\n \n <\/span>\n <\/span>\n <\/figcaption>\n <\/figure>\n<\/section>\n\n\n

I\u2019m a caddie. On a recent loop, my guys were atrocious putters \u2014 they never hit the line I gave them. On the last hole, one of them had a six-footer that needed to start on the left edge. I pulled the pin and held it up in the air so that its shadow made a line from his ball to the left edge of the hole. He sank the putt while I was holding the shadow on that line. Assuming this isn\u2019t legal, what if I take the shadow away just before the golfer putts the ball?<\/strong> \u2014Maddox Miller-Jones, via email<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Maddox, you are right to be afraid of your own shadow, as having the player putt while the shadow\u2019s still in place would be a breach of Rule 10.2b(2), which pertains to advice and other help. It gets your man the general penalty of two strokes in stroke play and loss of hole in match play.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

That said, using the shadow to point out the line before the stroke is made is okay \u2014 actually, it\u2019s more than okay, it\u2019s downright ingenious. Give yourself a big tip.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Need help unriddling the greens at your home course? Pick up a custom Green Book<\/a> from Golf Logix.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Got a question about the Rules? Ask the Rules Guy! Send your queries, confusions and comments to rulesguy@golf.com. We promise he won\u2019t throw the book at you.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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